WHAT THE HEALTH Dr. Nick Delgado Responds to ZDoggMD’s Keto, Paleo Vegan

WHAT THE HEALTH Dr. Nick Delgado Responds to ZDoggMD’s Keto, Paleo Vegan


I’m responding to a response to a documentary
called “WHAT THE HEALTH”, ZDogg MD, if you take a look at his website. I’ve taken a little bit of time to review
through a few of his videos not just the one where he commented and made some rather strange
expressions when he didn�t agree what the particular doctor explaining the origin and
cause of diabetes, which by the way in a documentary, they only have so much time to talk and they
didn�t want to bore the general public with the science, but I happen to know Dr. Neal
Barnard. I know of course Nathan Pritikin who started
the movement of Lifestyle Medicine. I’ve had the pleasure to work with Dr. John
McDougall, interview Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn, who was portrayed also in WHAT THE HEALTH,
and Dr. Michael Klaper, who worked with me in Torrance at the Delgado Protocol, at that
time Delgado Medical. What I’d like comment about is where ZDogg
is misleading people. He leads us to believe that somehow genetics
is a huge factor in the causation and the potential solution to diabetes. Now, let me get this straight. If you have genetics and you’re predisposed
to a particular health problem like diabetes or heart disease or cancer, doesn�t it make
more sense to follow a more careful, healthy lifestyle plan, diet and exercise? And also, ZDogg, why are you telling people
that we don�t know which diet is right, that we somehow have to design a diet for
every single person? Now, I looked at your other video at your
site and you admitted that you felt the Mediterranean diet was essentially the best kind of a diet
overall for people because it works for you. What you don�t point out — and although
you alluded to the Asian diet, that you dabbled with it, maybe even your genetics plays a
role in the Asian diet and you kind of poopooed that the Asian people eat a lot of rice and
vegetables, just like Atkins used to make fun of rice. And yet in a debate I had with Atkins near
the end of his life before he had a heart attack and a stroke, it was clear that when
they autopsied Atkins’ heart, it was clogged with cholesterol and fat where he advocated
the very diet that you’re saying is okay to eat pretty much meat and dairy and cheese
and so forth. Well, you admitted that a vegan diet didn�t
work for you because you said you just didn�t feel well and your co-host on another video
said that he was listless. You didn�t realize that there are far less
calories. You said yeah, you’re hungry all the time. Of course because when you eat very fatty,
greasy foods two or three meals a day, there’s so much oil and grease and fat and protein
concentration that that certainly does stay in your system for hours on end, which is
not a good thing. The human physiology of course did not evolve
on processed meats, processed cheese, concentrated sugars. I’ll agree with you, sugars aren’t good for
you, but they’re nowhere near as bad as the concentration of fats and proteins in the
diet. We know that intercellular fat affects the
muscles and it affects the insulin. And what you’re missing is when you read books
by Julian Whitaker, Reversing Diabetes, and you take a look at the charts and graphs — and
by the way, Julian Whitaker studied with Nathan Pritikin. I happen to know because his actual chapters
essentially mimic or mirror the actual reports that Nathan Pritikin have in my files that
I have copies of, but when you look at a high fat diet and its insulin and glucose response
compared to a high fiber, high carbohydrate diet, you can see how healthy the insulin
responses and glucose responses compared to the abnormal spike in any high fat diet in
any individual. Now, you’re saying that the Mediterranean
diet somehow is better for you. Well, the Mediterranean diet has, true, more
olive oil, more fats, some meats, but the Asian diet has shown to be much more conducive
to longevity, less heart disease, less cancer, less diabetes than the Mediterranean diet. You might enjoy the consumption of meat. You even said in one of your videos, “Oh,
I really like the taste of meat.” Well, most of us grew up like I did in the
Western world and of course, we like what our moms and dads fed us, and the fast food
chains allure us too, and the marketing budgets that cause us to eat far more animal product
than we ever should’ve. But all that being said, when Dr. James Anderson,
if you read his book, which was published in the 1980s — and he had a practical as
an endocrinologist. He worked with diabetics for over 20 years
and when Nathan Pritikin introduced him to the high fiber, high complex carbohydrate
diet, he changed over. He tested it. He researched it and he was amazed at how
he was able to get his diabetics off insulin and normalized in most cases within two weeks. [0:05:15] I’ll never forget that I learned about this
from one of the studies Dr. Anderson published and I read that on a high fiber, whole foods
diet, not a sugar-carbohydrate diet, but a whole foods, high carbohydrate diet center
around essentially potatoes, starch, beans, fruits, vegetables without added oils because
it’s the oils again that desensitize insulin, but it was shown that Dr. Anderson went back
and he looked at the glycemic index and insulin response and the problems with blood sugar
levels, and he figured out that when they were doing the original studies that people
were already eating the high fat diet then they had them come in from the typical American
high-fat diet and test eating white bread only or banana only or rice only and they
had a high glucose response. Well, do you blame the white bread or the
white rice? No. You have to look for two weeks of a two-week
load of grease and oils and fats that thicken the blood and desensitize the insulin and
then that test, the glucose and glycemic index, is basically altered or changed. So when you’re looking at blood sugar response,
you have to have a cleansing period. I guarantee if you put people on rice, fruits
and vegetables for two weeks and then you test them and measure an individual food like
rice or banana or vegetable or beets or any food you want in the carbohydrate kingdom
so long as it’s unprocessed, you’re going to see a nice leveling of insulin, a perfect
glucose response without the added oil, process of coconut oil, olive oil or sunflower oil. It’s when you remove those processed oils
that the body over a two-week period will start to operate properly and you’ll notice
the insulin response is appropriate and the glucose will be perfect and you’ll prevent
or reverse diabetes in most people the Type 2 Diabetes. Now, you didn�t seem to acknowledge the
fact that there’s evidence and a lot of research showing that dairy products damage the pancreas
and that can cause Type 1 diabetes, which then an individual may have difficulty producing
enough insulin, but in Type 2 diabetes, they produce all the insulin they need. It’s not that they don�t have enough insulin. In fact, in some cases, they produce more
insulin than the average person, but the insulin they produce is not sensitive because of all
the oils and fats. Now, you say it’s the sugars, but sugars are
always — almost always combined with fats. And so, our diet in America has not gone to
a higher carbohydrate diet. It continues to go to a higher fat diet. Just look at the USDA reports, the information
of food consumption. The evidence is quite clear. Now, if you’re talking about human performance,
you go on to say something about Ketogenesis, that it helped you to lose weight, to reduce
and get cut and ripped. Well, okay, on a Keto diet, you also mentioned
that you ate a lot more vegetables than you ever had — ever — that you ate more broccoli,
although it was with some butter. You ate more kale I think you said and that
was in this other video. Let’s see. “Y’all Vegans Got Beef?” Yeah, I think it was in that video. And in this video, you basically then told
us that although you don�t like to recommend diets, you were saying that for some people,
a Keto diet is right, but what you’re really saying is people need to eat more fruits,
more vegetables, more beans, more peas, cut out the sugar, cut out the oils and fats,
which you seem to be confused about. Somehow you think processed oils and fats
are good for you. I would agree that you can eat some more nuts
and seeds, walnuts, a little bit of avocado, whole olives. We know that the fiber slows the absorption
of that fat, and that goes back to what Dr. James Anderson published, what Dr. Denis Burkitt
had explained in his early work. Let me see here. And it was reported in Nutrition Facts — all
my books are marked and written through — by Nan Bronfin. She referenced Dr. Denis Burkitt who testified
before the US Senate hearings in 1977 that largely the Nigerian-African diet, they were
free of diabetes, very low rate of heart disease, almost nonexistent in most chronic diseases,
and these individuals eat a massive amount of fiber, so that’s one of the first rules. Get rid of the processed foods, and oils are
processed. Oils are not good for us and they are far
more toxic for us than sugar itself. If you combine sugar and oil together, sure,
you have a very, very problematic situation, but if you go to the unprocessed foods, I
think ZDogg will admit this is true, whole, unprocessed foods are the way to go, but you
have to get sufficient quantity to feel good throughout the day. [0:10:11] So basically, carry a little food with you. As our primitive relatives used to forage
for food all day long, we don�t have that luxury or time to do so, so carry a lunch
pail with you, if you will, and snack on those whole fruits and vegetables and beans and
peas throughout the day and you’ll start feeling better than you’ve ever felt. Add exercise. Take in proper amount of calories based on
looking in the mirror, checking your BMR, your percent body fat and your exercise activity
levels, but I can tell you that a person in ketosis will never perform athletically as
well as a person on a high fiber, unprocessed food diet. And just by eating more oils and fats, ZDogg,
that doesn�t mean you’re going to be forced into ketosis. Burning more fats effectively is a training
effect. That was well described by Covert Bailey in
his early books, Fit or Fat. It’s been well described in many scientific
studies done at major universities, so if you’re going to become a fat-burning machine,
it’s okay to eat more starch, carbohydrate, complex carbohydrate, fibrous foods, more
fruits, more vegetables. The biggest deficiency in the American diet
is lack of fruit. We’re close to a fruitarian just like the
video that you were badmouthing, the WHAT THE HEALTH. Really the digestive tract is designed to
handle large amounts of fruits and vegetables and beans and peas. You look at the Okinawans who are far healthier
than the Mediterraneans eating a lot of oranges, a lot of sweet potatoes. They eat fish probably only twice a month
according to peer review journal research now as they’ve interpreted Japanese journals. So when you talk about the blue zones and
the evidence about certain cultures around the world, almost to a culture, they’re eating
more unprocessed foods. Sure, they’re doing a little bit more activity
and exercise, but you can take an Asian culture — and this study has been done where they
took for example the healthiest people in the rural areas of say China or Japan, and
in the case of Japan where they’re eating again more sweet potatoes and vegetables,
sometimes rice and so forth, less meat because they couldn’t afford it in the rural areas. They were farmers. When they would migrate to Hawaii and start
eating more fat like the average American eats and integrate and mix into more of the
American ways as the Hawaiian culture is a little bit somewhere in between then the rate
of diabetes, heart disease, cancer, obesity all increased. Then you take that same genetic race, the
Japanese migrate to the United States, start adapting even more so to the American ways,
more animal product, more cheese, more meat, not even necessarily more sugar, less sugar
from carbohydrate foods because they’re essentially in the American diet eating less carbohydrate,
whole foods, these individuals have the highest incidence of stroke, heart attack, diabetes,
and high blood pressure. So health is very important to me, ZDogg and
I think you shouldn’t make fun of Garth Davis. His science is good. His information is good. Dr. Neal Barnard, a true scientist, a true
passionate doctor who really believes in a message that everyone should hear. Dr. Barnes did the most conclusive study where
they autopsied over 10,000 people from around the world and they checked their prior history
of their cholesterol, their diet, what was going on, and to a culture without exception. Every culture that ate meat, cheese, eggs,
and dairy products had a very high incidence of cardiovascular disease, diabetes, cancer
and strokes, hypertension as well, and arthritis. High inflammatory foods cause the arthritis. Every culture to a culture that ate high — the
higher the complex carbohydrates, 80% or more, 10% fat, 10% protein, the better their health. If their carbohydrates, whole, complex carbohydrates,
resistant starch carbohydrates were 60%, 50% to 60% to 70%, they were healthier than the
average American who barely gets 10% resistant starch carbohydrates. And I want everyone to watch WHAT THE HEALTH
because there’s so much truth in there and sure, there’s a little fanaticism, a little
excitement about being vegan and that little pride of “I’m a vegan.” Well, I’ve been one for, in my case, 40 years. Hey, I’ve eaten meat in my life. I’ve eaten cheese, eggs, dairy products, and
I paid the price. Fortunately, I’m alive today to tell you this
message. Love, live, eat healthy, be strong, be well.

36 thoughts on “WHAT THE HEALTH Dr. Nick Delgado Responds to ZDoggMD’s Keto, Paleo Vegan”

  1. That's a lot of books behind you! Too bad this video doesn't have more views and likes….ZDogg is a sensationalist and appeals to young men who believe in 'bro science' and lots of people in general want to believe their bad habits are good for them. It's human nature! Just because someone is a 'doctor' doesn't mean they know about nutrition as they have little to no training, and have to discover the truth for themselves, which takes time. Dr. Garth Davis of Proteinaholic is a good example. He went from a low carb/high meat diet to the complete opposite.

  2. I agree with everything you are saying. My wife and I have been on the McDougall program for 1.5 years. I was curious if you can give a breakdown of what you eat in a day and at what times you eat it. I noticed that you say that we have to be eating more during the day and it would be nice to see an example of that from a doc and not someone with just a popular vlog on YT.

  3. Does anybody know which of his books explains what to eat? I'm not looking for a recipe book, only the types of food to eat & why, etc.
    I'm a non-animal products eater, but do eat oils/butter. I am looking to improve my diet.

  4. This is awesome! Well presented, clear and concise without being judgmental, simple facts! Thanks Dr. Delgado for presenting the facts to zdogg! And yeah I love that your bookshelves are filled with BOOKS, that you've apparently read and not kitch!

  5. Great video. I'd love to interview you for my Youtube channel via Skype if you are open to discussing keto and high-fat diets and their effects on diabetics and fatty livers. Let me know what you think. 🙂

  6. I doubt you will make anyone who would believe a youtube clown over so many professional medical caregivers wake up.
    Intelligence varies throughout society as do peoples diets.

  7. this guy sounds like a politician trying to sell his brand of poison, lies with every breath just so that he can sell his own shitty program that "EVERYONE" can benefit, from eskimo to south african tribesman.

    what an old lair!

  8. You pick a panel of 4 Vegan body builders and 4 non Vegan. All must go thru extensive drug test first.
    Then it's a competition and proof that those beefed up puffy slow and stinky ( dead animal flesh stinks out of pores, BO warning) will lose!!!
    Better do it outside!

  9. Personally, I wouldn't bother with Zdogg. He's a bad doctor in it for fame. I pray that he will one day stop leading people down a very dangerous path.

    Thank you for your wisdom.

  10. Great video thank you!

    My husband got diagnosed with type 2 diabetes last year. He understands that a wholefood, no oil, plant based diet is what he needs to follow but he is having trouble sticking to it.
    Do you have any tips for compliance?
    He won’t go the medial route but he isn’t doing the diet right either 😬

  11. Zdogg doesn't exactly have the most professional approach, and no one is right all the time.

    But this doctor is a dumb ass just trying to sell a book.

  12. It's good you brought this out, it will answer questions by the rebuttal. I think the movie is great and added a lot to my own understanding. I'm on an Esselstyn diet now and always value the knowledge of exactly what controls what, how it all works. Naturally, the diet has saved my health, I'm 72 and it's never too late. Thanks again Dr. Nick for the video.

  13. Doctor, you have quite a few books, and you are obviously well read. I've read many of the books on your shelf. I agree with your approach to diet. With all of that said, I am looking for some information on amino acid and protein conversion that takes place within the intestinal tract. You mentioned this mechanism while doing a talk for Doctor John McDougall. What book of yours explains the process in fairly good detail? Or, if there is a book that you can steer me to, that would be great. I also was highly influenced by Pritikin, and later Ornish. I went through the Ornish protocol about 20 years ago, and it saved my life. I continue to read and learn. So, if you can help steer me to a good source concerning the issue of amino acid conversion and production from the sloughing of intestinal lining, you would be doing me a great favor. Thanks for all your info. John.

  14. I am not a doctor, but you are saying sugar is not the cause the diabetes? That's what the health video was saying.

  15. I never loose weight doing what you guys recommends. So something is wrong with your concept. I agree more with dr. Jason Fung than your concept.

  16. This youtube link by ketoconnect sums up my point https://youtu.be/gQS4Mu903tY . If you think vegan diet is right for you,then go for it. That's what I think. It just that some of the thing it said in the what the health just bothers me, especially about sugar does not make fat but fat makes fat.

  17. Yes, this little man has so much love when it comes to stroking his own ego. The only thing I can politely call him is Dr. Piss Ant instead of zdoggMD :-(Mr Disgorge)-: hah!

  18. Zdogg is a cold hearted something… last year, he did an interview with Paul offit regarding vaccines where they promoted typical unsubstantiated mantras supporting their use … during the interview a father of a small child who died from a vaccine was knocking on the door… offit and zdogg were laughing like the father was some ‘crazy’ anti vacxer.. seriously, the guy was clearly doing exactly what zdogg and offit suggest, except his daughter became the sacrifice for the supposed ‘greater good’ … something offit and zdogg could care less about and refuse to acknowledge.

  19. I saw a presentation about where the Mediterranean diet concept came from… it was on Ted… not sure name of presenter/researcher… but, he said that the observations about the ‘diet’ were made shortly after ww2, I believe it was… the people were actually eating very little olive oil… growing whatever plant foods they were eating.. can’t remember how much meat they ate… but it was low in olive oil… AND I think most of the meat they were eating was fish and they were getting a lot of exercise from going up and down steps and doing the work of life … the fishing and growing food … The take away is it was not a high fat diet using copious amounts of olive oil, was likely relatively low in calories, probably included ample plant foods, but no processed convenience foods… and these people were living highly active lives.

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