The 131 Method | The Keto Diet Podcast Ep 184 with Chalene Johnson

The 131 Method | The Keto Diet Podcast Ep 184 with Chalene Johnson


hey you’re listening to episode 184 and today were chatting with chalene johnson oh gosh if you don’t know who chalene is you’re gonna know all the things about her life and her and her work and all the things directly after this episode but little story time so we started helpful pursuit back in 2010 and in 2013 we decided or rather I decided without telling Kevin that I was gonna quit my job so that was a big thing and after I quit my job Kevin decided to move across the country with me I went with him to take a new job a new position and when we moved to Montreal from Calgary Alberta all happening in Canada my sister gifted me turbo fire and chalene johnson is the creator of turbo fire and I did that little workout I mean it’s not little it was epic my body hurt every day I did that workout every day before I sat down at my computer and worked on healthful pursuit when I was making $100 a month and had no clue how all this is gonna turn out so when chalene reached out to me and said I want you on my podcast I was like I will come on your podcast but you need to come on mine and she said yes and so here we are it’s so so cool to get to chat with her get to know her more as a human being instead of what we see on TV and Instagram and really just hear about her story and the transitions that she’s made over the years and I think something you’ll take away from this episode is it’s never too late to change your mind it’s never too late to put yourself first and I cannot wait for you to hear her story so if you have questions about today’s content head on over to healthful pursuit calm / contact and ask me I’m sitting in a super hot room and I just turned the AC on so you’re probably hearing a little bit of a fan sorry not sorry because it’s it’s like over a hundred degrees Fahrenheit which has to be over 30 degrees Celsius it must be over 35 degrees Celsius I don’t know it’s hot so if you hear the fan running I’m sorry but like I just couldn’t sit here without the AC running now if you I catch up on previous podcast episodes and notes from today’s show head on over to keto diet podcast.com I got one cool thing to share with you and that is right now in this moment I am still on tour so if you have not RSVP’d for one of the amazing cities that I’m visiting you can go to keto diet book calm slash tour and see if I’m heading to your location or maybe you can take a little drive and meet me I would love to give you a hug sign your book if you don’t have a book you can purchase books there if you don’t want to purchase that’s cool to just come hang out I answer key no questions life questions we always have a blast so today’s guest as I said it’s Julian Johnson she’s a New York Times bestselling author of push and a lifestyle and business expert motivational speaker and podcast host she and Brett her husband of over 20 years are the founders of smart life movement today with her husband Celine runs a fun-loving collaborative team focused on helping others live a healthier more simplified life through their online academies membership sites and live sold-out seminars chalene with the help of top dietitians doctors researchers and experts founded the 1-3-1 method a nutritional coaching program that’s turning the diet industry upside down she leans new book the 1-3-1 method just came out April 2019 she hosts two top ranked podcasts a Celine show and build your tribe Huffington Post recognized Celine as one of the top 50 FEMA entrepreneurs to watch you can find out more by checking out her website at chalene johnson dot-com she also has a site dedicated to her book which you can find at one three one method calm okay let’s do this thing welcome to the keto diet podcast if you’re new around these parts I’m Leon Vogel you may know me as the International best-selling author of the keto diet the keto diet cookbook keto for women and the writer behind the site healthful pursuit calm as a woman you already know exactly how hard it can be to lose weight stay in shape and make the best of your diet I’ve put together a free 21 page guide exclusive to podcast listeners that shows you why imbalanced hormones are generally at the core of all stroke that women face when it comes to our weight and our overall health go to Kido for women comm for your free guide in this free 21 page guide called managing hormone imbalances for the keto lady I share tips that will help you find success in adjusting your keto to fit your lady body first I’ll provide five tips to help you stay focused as a keto lady and lastly we will review the top hormone imbalances that affect women signs you may have a hormone imbalance and actions you can take right now to achieve hormone balance you can get your free 21 page guide at keto for women calm and thank you so much for listening today Selene thank you so so much for coming on the show girl it’s my honor this is just I mean I said it on yours I’ll say it again a dream come true I I got turbo fire as a gift from my sister when I quit my job and moved across the country in a hundred dollars a month to like pursue my dreams and you are on the show I just can’t even that’s fun I love hearing those kind of stories yeah that’s turbo fire is it’s part of like my transformation in terms of like my mindset and probably some of the stuff that will dig into today but it’s also been like the greatest gift because it invited me into the homes of literally millions of women yes and I traveled with that thing like I had a little desk set and I’d bring it to my girlfriends like hey this yet looks like whose house you’re in my house like weed that’s so cool you know the songs that’s great okay so you just finished writing a book one three one method I would love and I I always love to understand the concept behind this how did this come about and why did you decide to write a book like what was the story behind okay yes I need to write this thing well I ended up in the space of being a health and fitness expert by accident I didn’t study nutrition or fitness my degree is in justice morality and constitutional democracy I had had many businesses before deciding to just focus on a fitness business so once that business really started to take off and I was creating workouts for health clubs 24-hour fitness was one of my biggest clients at the time and then eventually we were in literally thousands of gyms and that caught the attention of infomercial companies and I always felt like I’m boy I’m having tremendous success in Fitness because I’m good at business but I really don’t know what I’m doing in Fitness other than just I know how to have fun so once the infomercial started and they started kind of like trying to package me which is what you need to do is an expert in health and fitness I just had major impostor syndrome I felt like I didn’t belong here I wasn’t sure how people were why people were buying my videos I I knew I didn’t look like the other people I didn’t know as much as they did and I really started to just look at what everyone else was doing who was quote-unquote Fitness celebrity and whatever they said I was like okay I’m gonna memorize that and I’m gonna repeat it and I’m gonna also try to follow that advice especially when he came to nutrition now exercise a little different so exercise I was really into research but when it came to nutrition I was just like well if that person is more credible and has more followers and is more famous well then you don’t question it you just repeat it and so and so I did and in fact many of the nutrition programs that were often packaged with my consumer videos I had no idea how to tell people what to do with their food so they would hire people who would create these diets for me and I would just you know attach them to my name and I was trying to follow these same recommendations you know and I was trying to eat very low fat and low calorie and the workouts that I was doing as you and I both know your body is really smart so the longer I was working out and the less I was eating the harder my metabolism was working against me and was slowing down it’s like oh okay we’re not getting a lot of calories so we better not burn a lot oh she’s burning through Tanna calories which means and she’s not eating a lot so we better really slow her metabolism down and I didn’t have a weight problem Leanne but I never felt like I looked like all the other like super crazy lean oh look at you can see the outline of her spleen kind of girls so I I struggled with that and in the process you know that was always in the back of my mind and during one of the filming’s people always try to figure out what video it is so it’s like don’t even worry about that but during one of the filming’s after I had an infomercial it didn’t do goo that great on TV I got a call from the producer actually he didn’t call me he called my husband and this producer said you know we just you know maybe you could have a delicate conversation with chalene about her body we just think from a marketing standpoint her stuff would do a lot better if she can just get tighter you know she needs to get leaner so it’s more inspirational and my husband didn’t tell me about that at first cuz it really bothered him and you didn’t know what to do with that information but he did eventually come to me with that and I was I was devastated like I felt like you know that most embarrassing moment when you’re a little kid in school you know what I mean like just I was humiliated and embarrassed and ashamed and it was like all of these it’s like see they know they all know you’re an impostor that’s what I felt like in that moment and I I wanted to punch someone I was really angry but at the same time I my shame was like you you’re gonna prove to people that you belong you belong here and you’re gonna you just you need to do something and so I and I was already exercising for like probably three hours a day at that point and barely eating enough calories everything I ate was like sugar free fat free calorie free chemicals and I thought well I what could I do and I tried a bunt this is the first time in my life I’d ever like truly dieted like followed someone’s plan so I I downloaded a bunch of different diets I googled a bunch of different things I tried a bunch of different diets and nothing was working nothing except um pure starvation and more exercise so I started like running six miles and on top of all my workouts on top of all the things I was doing with you know kickboxing and Pilates and yoga and everything else and and then just just kept cutting back my food intake to the point where eventually I think I lost like a total of six pounds and I’m five – so six pounds can look like 16 pounds and I was like gonna do I felt like I was gonna die I just was not a dieter so for me to be doing that and just running on empty I was an emotional wreck I kept injuring myself I had no mental energy I had no physical energy and then we had to film this crazy intense workout series and I just remember every time I went to the my dressing room I would just break down crying but not knowing why just like I had my emotions were on the you know edge of my skin and I got so much praise you know everyone was so happy that’s probably why I was crying because I knew I literally felt like I was going to die and but there was so much praise you know I posted a picture of myself just before we shot one of those videos on Instagram and one of the very first comments was like I’m worried about you chalene are you are you okay and then another one was like wow you look anorexic and I deleted those because they were like thousands of people saying hashtag body goals I went oh my gosh I can’t wait for this program to come out I want to look like you this is amazing I can’t wait to what you’re doing you know and then I come out with this program and tell people they can get results in you know 30 minutes a day which I believed I just I knew that wasn’t possible for me and what resulted Leeanne was I nearly destroyed my my health in that process back to today’s episode in a sec you get a healthy dose of fat with f-bomb nut butter packets filled with high quality fats each single serve packet is keto friendly no sugar non-gmo gluten-free dairy-free peanut free and vegan and they won’t blow up in your purse like the other packets that we’ve all tried just pure fats in an easy tere packet listeners of the podcast get this exclusive epic deal that you won’t want to miss by any to 10 packs of f-bomb nut butter packets and get a free 10 pack of f-bomb premium oil of your choice go to healthful pursuit calm slash f-bomb and use the code leann free that’s le a and and e free2go Fedders then get a free 10 pack of will choose from MC t all of avocado coconut or macadamia nut oil you’ll love the convenience of taking healthful oils with you on the go no more inflammatory oils on your takeout salads 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be honest and tell people like yeah you know what it’s no no I don’t I didn’t I can’t do it in 30 minutes a day maybe you can maybe your body will look like this in 30 minutes a day but not mine and and even still is so I got down to almost 11 percent body fat and Here I am 11 percent body fat filming and a cameraman who was a nice guy I’ve filmed with him on other projects and he whispered to me I was like I was in a plank position and he was like you know kind of like coming down panning down with the camera and he whispered to me don’t worry and I thought much like I’m in plank the cameras on me keep smiling but I just literally wanted to break down and cry and punch him and be like okay well why don’t you go outside and smoke your cigarette again with your big gut and you’re gonna tell me you’re gonna shoot around my trouble spots like really really but that’s the industry I was in and I don’t blame you know this isn’t like specific to the company that I worked with or that production crew or that cameraman that’s the freaking industry you know and that’s TV you look at some of these reality TV stars they get thinner each season you know and you see like even singers like when they’re they really they struggle so much with their weight like this is the industry and thin sells and when it comes to fitness in particular thinner leaner stronger unattainable is inspirational and I just realized like I was there’s so much anger in me over these instances but I also didn’t want to give up like I didn’t want to be kicked out of the club I didn’t want to I didn’t want to have to you know be kicked out for you know being 15 percent body fat or whatever but then I have a lot was going on with my brain like I literally it wasn’t just brain fog I don’t I call it brain cement like I would someone be walking towards me like a close friend do I see six times a week and I’d be like oh my god her name is her name is her name is oh my gosh what is her name like literally so I’m like something’s going wrong with my brain so I had brain scan done thinking that like I must have a brain tumor or something and I had a brain scan done at the Amon clinic and dr. Ayman just and and I had all my nutrition panels done and my hormone panels and when I sat down to go over the results with him he just said I know who you are I’ve seen your infomercials and I know you’re a health expert but you’re getting a failing health grade this is really really serious how did that feel what was going through your mind at that point I felt angry with myself because of hurt my first thought was about my kids like how could you do this to yourself what like everything kind of like flashed before my eyes like all all the things that that little voice in the back of my head kept saying this probably isn’t good for you this probably isn’t something you should be doing you should probably getting more sleep you should probably be getting more rest like all those little things but you know like yeah but but you got to eat leaner you you got it you got it you know you want people to see you as an expert you’ve got to look the part and so in that moment I was I’m not a crier but I bawled my eyes out and I also because of my kids I just like alright I’m done I have no business leading others if I have led myself into a position of declining health if I’ve shortened my own life to look a certain way I have no bit and so I refused you know I had additional projects that were coming my way in Fitness and I and people are very angry like when are you gonna do another program I’m like I it’s hard for me to explain but I don’t deserve to do one and I shouldn’t be doing one until I understand what it really means to be healthy and I don’t know I don’t know anything about nutrition I don’t know how these things impact my my body from the inside out I don’t know the things that I’ve told you to do I don’t know if they’re good for you or not I assume they’re not because I’ve been doing them and look at me so I stepped out of the fitness industry and I couldn’t do so with an explanation I couldn’t tell people why because then I’m you know saying something negative about the industry that supports so many people it was a really complicated place to be and I never kept saying like why are you doing another program and I would just have to say Oh super busy but the truth would matter like it’s just it’s too long of an explanation so thank you for giving me a platform to fully explain it but I just didn’t feel like I had the right because of what I done to myself and I knew that I had probably done the same thing unknowingly with others and their health did you feel fear in that moment you’re sitting in the doctor’s office and you’re like oh my gosh my health is failing I need to like refocus my energy I’m sure as somebody who’s had to redefine herself a couple of times like throw business stuff not only you’re worrying about money and you’re your platform but also your family and now your body like your body is changing and did you feel a loss of control or fear how did you work through yeah all of that I didn’t fear the money part of it because I think it’s a misnomer people assume like oh if I’ve seen you on TV then that’s where you make all your money but my husband and I are businesses our primary income has always been from teaching other people how to start businesses so we have academies that teach people all of the things that we’ve learned about business over the last 30 years and so that’s always been our primary source of income but my primary source of notoriety was Fitness so I knew that gosh you know the way people maybe know me that’s gonna shift for them but I like you always say you’ve really changed all over the years I haven’t changed at all I just have evolved right like what it is I want to talk about is evolved and the one thing that never felt really like me were some of the things I was doing in Fitness and the majority of our money was always made by helping people use their purpose their story their ideas to create an income for themselves by starting their own business I wasn’t worried at all about business or what I was gonna do because also with infomercials you film for like two weeks and then you don’t do anything with it the Machine starts to do the work for you so I was concerned however about my brain and what I saw on the scans but I was also reassured and I also know like it gives I’m sure you’re like this Leon to like one thing that gives me incredible confidence is digging in and researching so I shut everything else down and that’s what I did I was like all right well I’m really blessed to have this podcast where I can reach out to every expert and then they’re likely to come on my show and I can pick their brain and I can use this for my own benefit and I can I can start to set the record straight and help my audience heal as I’m healing and that’s what I chose to do and I listened and I I followed every single piece of advice that I could find and I was a good student and and it took several years to restore my brain health and do a follow-up spec scan to see the changes in my brain the changes in my health my hormone everything everything is different today and it wasn’t easy it wasn’t it wasn’t like as simple as we want it to be like oh you just eat this and you drink that you know and then you’ll do this workout it’s just not that simple because it’s different for every single person and that is why I wrote to answer your to finally answer your question the reason why I wrote the book is because I’m good at simplifying really complicated matters and frankly our bodies and our health are pretty complicated and we don’t have a completely figured out but I wanted people to understand that we are not dumb and we have to stop thinking of ourselves as being too dumb to figure out our own science like you can be a scientist you can conduct a study of one and you can figure out what works for you and isn’t that hard if you understand some basic premise about how your body works and why things might work one way for one person in some a different way for another if you understand our epigenetics and and really just spend a little bit of time understanding those basics then something that’s really complicated you can start to make the right decisions informed decisions instead of relying on someone giving you a list of approved or unapproved foods yes and you did such a great job like I read the book over the weekend and it’s very clear and I love to actually the SPECT imaging I found that very fascinating that you included that image of your brain before and after I loved that I totally geeked out over that and all the little messages throughout there was one message message especially I don’t remember where it was but I wrote it down practice they from birth we are conditioned to believe we are flawed mm-hmm and that’s so true and that’s something that I’ve struggled with that I know that so so many women struggle with specifically I’m sure there are a couple ladies listening right now like what flaws have you seen in yourself we’ve chatted about how you felt like you were never enough and that you were always comparing do you still struggle with flaws now and to them now yeah you know now I’m I am in this place where it’s weird like I’ve unfollowed all of the people it’s like that’s not realistic I don’t need that to trigger me I don’t need to hear about your quote cheat meal you know I hate those kind of terms and and just the unrealistic body types I just a bun followed all those accounts and I’ve really started to try to fuel my mind with positivity people accept their bodies and people who understand that health is so much more than what we eat and when we exercise there’s so many components to health it’s our mental health and our relationships and our spiritual health and and so many things but one thing I if I can be honest one thing I’ve been struggling with lately is am i doing that right like am i doing the body acceptance thing right like does it mean that I don’t accept myself if I want to wear false lashes or color my hair or shave my armpits like I’ve fallen so so many people now who are just totally like let’s put it all out there you grow your bikini hair and yeah let your hair go natural and yeah let you know then I’m just like gosh if I if I don’t do that does that mean that I’m not accepting myself like so now I’m finding myself saying like am I am I doing this right am i doing the acceptance thing the right way it’s not funny I’ve gone through that too and I mean you haven’t Anne isn’t there like a drawer in your kitchen where you keep your lashes like you’re devoted to the lash game that’s that’s what I do best in the kitchen is put on my lashes I’m not a chef that’s my husband’s game and yeah and but see the thing is with lashes for me I love lashes because there’s so much faster than freakin mascara in my opinion and I don’t like to do the lash extensions that tried that route and so I and it’s also it’s like some people like to paint I like to paint I like to paint my face I like to put on my lashes and listen to a good edition of a podcast and put on my lashes and my you know have a nice cup of coffee and relax completely and I think that that like if you’re doing it for you and I’ve struggled with that – like I love waxing like I enjoy my body being waxed and I will like I just don’t feel comfortable I don’t do it for anyone else I don’t do it – you know aligned with a certain standard so I think it really comes down to doing things for the right reasons and if you yeah by painting your face and doing your nail putting on lashes and that’s what makes you feel alive and wonderful and it’s a form of self-care I I think that’s completely acceptable and on the flip side a form of self care for another woman could be letting her armpit farm hair totally fly and yep matter but I just wouldn’t feel comfortable like yep you know have you found that too though do you struggle with that – like oh gosh so you know now and also and also this like kind of full circle where people are like judge it like if your body acceptance then why are you and they’ll just go to any length like why are you coloring your hair why are you wearing accessories it’s like really I you know just we’re taking it too far I definitely experienced it in the form of fat versus skinny I get told a lot like well how do you understand body positivity you’re not fat or you know like look at you you have a curvy body and it’s not skinny therefore you’re better because and I’m like guys we’re all missing the point here yeah you can’t you can’t put your own limits on a specific person like if I’m thinking of if I had to paint my face every day and do the nails and the eyelashes and stuff I’d be exhausted like I don’t find that stuff fun but to me you know like going salsa dancing is a huge form of self-care for me and that’s what lights me up and makes me feel good so I think it really comes down to what what lights you up what what makes you feel good and just because you do so and things doesn’t mean that you’re not worthy of a certain message or a certain thing and how dare people that are trying to be more self aware and more self expressive and more inclusionary are are not allowing certain people in the club because they don’t align to their own values like it doesn’t it doesn’t make any sense to me and I’ve dealt with that over and over and over again and I don’t know the answer to that other than yeah possibly no because you’re not me lead with love lead exactly exactly like worry about yourself there’s so much that we all have to work through so I’m just gonna be over here in my corner living my truth back to today’s episode in a sec butcher box features 100% grass-fed and finished heritage bread pork and organic free-range chicken butcher box sends you high-quality health promoting meats directly to your door on dry ice and free shipping anywhere in the lower 48 butcher box makes committing to quality protein sources less expensive 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diet phasing one week too fast and fuel you can you explain the health objective piece first yeah that that piece is really important for for me because I need everyone to understand the health isn’t just weight loss right like we shouldn’t look at our nutrition simply for weight loss we should be looking at our nutrition to solve many of our health objectives that might be having clarity in your thinking it might be balancing your hormones it might be dealing with clearing up your own skin for me it was my brain health for me it was energy it wasn’t about weight loss for me it was about understanding how to get healthy so you start with your own objective like what and I ask people to to say to themselves and to not think about your weight but to think about like if there were one thing that you know it would make you feel better like it’s a thing you’re thinking about all the time and it’s holding you back that’s probably your number one health objective maybe that is the fact that you can’t get pregnant or maybe it’s the fact that you have cystic acne and so start with your own objective and if when you start with your own objective that means from the get-go what you’re gonna do is gonna be different from what I’m gonna do and then we enter into three weeks of diet phasing but if you don’t start first with your objective then you’re just on a diet right because the whole method the whole concept behind the one through a method is you learn enough about your body that we’re gonna give you some structure but it’s up to you to personalize it to figure out how to make it work for your objective and then the last one is for a week of fasting and refueling which for some people is just the refueling it’s it might just be taking a break from intermittent fasting or it might be doing one of the five different or four different fast that we cover in the book and that even those things that’s very personalized like there’s not one way to fast there’s a and there’s it also depends on what your objective is and if it’s the right time for you to do it or not and you certainly don’t have to fast every four weeks but if you do here are some different things you can try based on your health objective and it’s really teaching people my whole goal with the book giving people enough structure right because that’s what we want people are like I just you’ve had this happen Leona look just tell me what to eat just tell me what to eat and I know people want that and this is a nice balance where I can help people say okay we’re gonna give you some guidelines but I want you to customize this I want you to make it yours and more than anything because there are three phases it’s like exposing people to the fact that you don’t have to just find your diet tribe and hang on to it like with a death grip you can phase your diet and then you can go back to what it like let’s say you find that being you know generally keto feels best for you but you’re not losing your identity or doing something wrong or falling off the bandwagon if for the summer you decide you want to eat more of a plant-based diet and not worry about whether or not you’re in ketosis and then you can phase it again but it’s learning that you know the more we hang on so tightly with a death grip to a label or an identity we begin to silence our body’s intuition and we begin to silence that little voice inside your head that says I need a break from keto or I need a break from intermittent fasting or I need a break from being vegan whatever it is because we think oh if I do that well then then I’m not fill in the blank label so I also I really want people to stop to consider not labeling themselves too or maybe just say you know I’m a lianna terian like I you know like I eat the way that’s right for me right now it’s so true and that little voice when we start to listen to it it’s so powerful like it can tell us so many things that we never thought possible and it’s really like a muscle like my husband Kevin we’ve been together for 12 years and I’ve seen him evolve over time and I’m very intuitive with his body like I can tell cues from him sometimes more so that he can let what oh I can tell when he has a reaction to different food or just in the way that he holds himself or the way that he clears his throat or how much water he drank sounds like um are you feeling okay I have a little bit of a headache I’m like what did you have today like I had chocolate I’m like did that chocolate have stevia yeah there was stevia and that chocolate okay last time you had stevia did you get a headache yeah I did I’m like maybe are sensitive to stevia he’s like yeah maybe I am you know select your detectives yeah exactly exactly but I think we all have that and I’ve seen him over the years start to like put the puzzles together and like okay I’m understanding like these little pieces are coming in and we all have this little voice inside of us and the more that we use it it was stronger that it gets and that’s so mmm that’s so cool that’s and yeah dieting piece it totally silences that and we’re told we can’t listen that voice cuz all that voice wants is cupcakes and ice cream and right and so where do you have follow the rules don’t listen don’t follow your intuition follow the rules right like so it’s it’s 11:00 a.m. and you are on this intermittent fasting schedule and you’re not supposed to eat until noon or exactly or you know friends asked you out to dinner at 7:00 p.m. and you’re having a panic attack because you need to be done eating by 7:00 p.m. like what do you do like you live life you know that 80/20 world it’s like realizing oh well I can make an informed decision it’s you know just trying to get people to live live and make informed decisions like it’s okay to have a cocktail and whatever it is whatever it is you know that you know isn’t great for you but if you’re informed about how it’s gonna make you feel then you’re making an informed decision and you can you can have it you can you can do whatever you want as long as it’s sung as you know how it’s going to impact you and that you’re willing to deal with the consequences yes making a choice I hope you’re totally diggin this episode I love putting these together every week and I hope you’re getting something out of it I love seeing where you’re listening from so next time you’re listening or even right now take a picture of yourself watching the show or screenshot of your favorite episode and tag me on instagram at healthful pursuit and if social isn’t your thing that’s totally fine just jump on your favorite podcast player and leave a review for the show ok back to the good stuff and so since you listen to your intuition and you’re working on that little voice inside what are some like major nutrition lessons you’ve learned in the last six months cuz I always find like your body’s always changing you’re always learning new things what’s like one big takeaway that you’ve learnt recently about your body stress is huge like so no matter how OnPoint my nutrition is I recently had a flare-up of epstein-barr and it was during the writing of my book I always say whew if you want to do something really unhealthy write up a health book cuz it is hard work and especially because I knew I had such a debt of responsibility to my audience that like every thing I wanted to research it in fact check it in double check it and then just before it published I wanted to check again and see if there was new science so I got myself so stressed that proper nutrition and the right exercise can’t can’t cancel out having too much stress in your life so that’s one thing is that food can fix most things not all things right we fear the food can fix everything and well not necessarily you also have to factor in your environment and lifestyle and stress is a big part of that other things I’ve learned well things I’ve really enjoyed is I can eat really whatever I want and I can have it’s crazy to me now not that I count calories but in the few times I have like just to go like I wonder how many calories I’m having it’s like probably three times what I was trying to sustain on when I was exercising you know three hours a day and and it’s foods that I enjoy and I feel different like I and also just that awareness like you said like having it in two about your husband where before when I had a headache I’d be like oh gosh I have a headache where’s the advil now I’m like that’s weird I have a headache wouldn’t I eat you know then I try to put two and two together and I’m like and then it’s kind of interesting to have a headache I’m like oh this is kind of interesting and then I’ll like write some things down like oh oh I know what it is you know so just realizing just I mean I haven’t studied this for very long but we’re smart enough you’re you are smart enough to take in a little bit of information and to tell yourself I’m gonna remember this and I find it fascinating and how much more fun it is to be informed yes yes I totally agree yes I couldn’t imagine not being informed with my body I mean I’m on the other spectrum of it like my friends call me like the walking lab like I can tell like instantly if there’s something bad in a food or if I’m not feeling good in something I’m such a strong intuition so but I think you know for the average bear to just like have to know that certain things give them headaches so that they need a certain amount of sleep in a day if they have a big meeting and all those little things just make life so much easier like there’s no more yeah they really do and and for the longest time I just ignored them like I wore my my work ethic like a badge of honor like you know and and just keep pushing through it and eventually it does take a toll on you and it’s a much more fun place to be when you recognize that no one the only rules that you could possibly ever need to live by are the ones that are right for you and so the sooner we realize like when someone says like oh is is this gonna kick me out of ketosis or is this allowed I would say it’s crazy to me that a grown adult would ask another adult if they’re allowed to eat a particular food are you allowed you’re the adult you know and they’re really smart you know doctors and lawyers and engineers that when it comes to food we’ve been so conditioned to believe that we are not smart enough to figure this out we need to follow someone else a specific plan that works specifically for them because my god look at their body they look amazing therefore I need to do exactly they’re doing and if I do exactly what they’re doing and I don’t look like what they look like well then I probably didn’t do it right and that’s just a bunch of BS and it just did that has got to end yes I need to like make that the audio clip for today’s episode because it’s so beautiful and I couldn’t have said it better myself now when it comes to the relationship you now have with food and how that’s adjusted you’re eating more you’re feeling better you’re still rockin the lashes your relationship to physical movement changed because like I saw you doing some crazy stuff on top of a hot tub cover the other day oh so one thing is I again I used to like plan out every single workout I was gonna do every single day of the week and I still have like a general plan but the difference is if I woke up and I felt like I was 90 years old and everything hurt and my bones felt like they’re coming through my feet and I had no energy it didn’t matter it was on my schedule I was doing it now I’ll wake up and I’ll go oh I plan to do to lift heavy for my legs today but my legs feel tired then I won’t do it I’ll say what feels good I do try to honor the gift of my health every day with some form of movement but that might be a walk on the beach it might be just gentle stretching or foam rolling or moving my body I believe that we have to move our bodies and that’s something I do because I love myself and I love this gift and if you have ever had your health taken away or your ability to exercise taken away then you know how truly grateful we should be every day that we have it but what’s different now is I don’t do hours and hours I don’t beat myself up and I listen to my body I go what do I need today and I weigh cut back on my cardio I just really do short bursts of cardio now and I love strength training I love feeling strong and strength training doesn’t necessarily always mean lifting weights I love moving my body rhythmically to music and that strength training I’m strengthening my body in the way we do in yoga the form that I practice is called piyo I like to think of it as yoga for hyperactive people who love music like it’s very rhythmic and it feels like dance and the music tells you what to do and I can get lost in it but I just don’t beat myself up anymore I used to do workouts that were just brutal literally brutal pounding and I thought if I didn’t hurt and if I wasn’t exhausted and just ripping and sweat then it wasn’t a good workout and that I’d learned that that’s not natural it wasn’t allowing my body to heal I was throwing myself into adrenal fatigue and I was working at a deficit that I could never catch up on do you remember what that process was like for you because I if I rewind myself five years and listen to what you just said how you were like pounding the pavement and doing all the things and hurting and bleeding and just like horrible workouts – now where you have such a great relationship with it when you decided to make that shift was it terrifying what did you do because I know that there are women listening right now they’re like that’s really great I but I I just I don’t get it like how do I make that transition I want to do this but I don’t even understand how that’s possible so when you asked me that question just now I have truly tried to go back and not give you an answer today right like to go like what was I thinking and I think if I’m being honest I was afraid I was afraid that I would gain 20 pounds that I my body would become soft and that I would lose people’s respect you know I I did fear those things and that was in the back of my mind for sure I definitely had that fear but I was motivated by my situation I was really motivated by my my kids like sometimes I say you have to do it for yourself maybe I did it for I don’t know if I if I didn’t have children if I would have been as motivated to make these immediate changes but because I did have kids it was bigger than me and my love for my husband and a lot and my love for my children was such that I was like first of all I’m being a horrible role model and secondly I want to live longer and I don’t want them to have to care for me because I mean ‘native decline you know way earlier than what I should be so that and I was tired you know I was really tired like I couldn’t go any further I was on empty and it was just someone pointing out the gas gauge pointing to the fact that I was on E that I had to go wow I have been running on e for a long time and it has caught up with me and I can’t keep going and so it frankly it was literally that day the day that I reviewed my brain scan that I was like its I was teaching a for a 5:30 a.m. workout for more than 20 years and at the same gym obviously I didn’t need to do that for financial reasons but I it was part of like my identity it was part of what got me exercising very early in the morning so I could get in all my hours that day on the way home I called the manager of the gym and said I’m giving up all my classes because I knew I for me I this situation I couldn’t just scale back I needed to like go cold turkey and just wake up the next day and go what do you need that’s amazing that is I know how terrifying that could be I’ve been there and it’s just it’s amazing that you used your family to get you there and I guess my next question would be really how was the relationship with your husband and your kids at that point because I could imagine that if you’re working that hard and you’re dealing with your all the things and you’re crying and you’re working on your business in your videos and how was your relationship with them and how are you showing up in their lives at that point yeah it’s a really good question I hadn’t thought about that I don’t think anyone’s ever asked me that before because my first thought usually when someone asked me about my relationship with my husband I talked about the fact that we’ve overcome addiction and our relationship is so great today but you know our relationship probably is really great today for more reasons than just that and it probably does have a lot to do with the fact that it’s a miserable state to be in you know where you’re constantly controlled by your next workout and you’re constantly controlled by your body image like my you know identity everything that I literally what people knew me for now what we were making our money for which was business but like what people knew me for was like being known in the fitness realm and so yeah everything got better in my relationship with my kids my relationship with my husband since then I’ve had my daughter on the podcast a lot and she suffered from orthorexia for several years in high school and I you know she she claims it was track at cetera but I certainly know that just living in our household where the talk is about exercise and food and exercise and think about all the people who get my attention and praise it’s like these before and afters and look at all these people these people look what they’ve done to their body by exercising for hours so there is definitely I have to take responsibility for how that may have had a negative impact on her in her orthorexia because there was so much attention given to exercise and body transformation and what does body transformation mean it means that your body wasn’t good before and now it’s better see what you were before and now look at this how this person is after so there had to have been some you know pretty shitty subliminal messaging that she received and I remember always thinking about it and hoping that it wasn’t impacting her that way we didn’t talk about our body image their body images at home we never talked about weight at home but the subliminal is still there and kids are smart and I’m sure it had an impact on her yeah the kids do piece things together one of my one of my first memories of like bodies and praise and transformation was when my mom went to Weight Watchers and I guess she had lost 20 pounds or something and my aunts and uncles came over and we made a big poster when she got home from school one day we had like this party and there were balloons and it was all happy and I remember thinking like okay if I lose weight then I get a party like it was just wow it’s such a young age to be like lose weight get a party like blah you know it’s it’s interesting how it all how it all yeah and I hope that the moms are listening you know they don’t beat themselves up but also but you be aware like every time you pull at your body every time you say I’m fat every time you say I need to lose weight you might as well be saying that to your child because those comments make a mark on them even if it’s subliminal so it’s number one being really careful about the things we say about ourselves and then about others you know for me I was never I was really careful never standing about our body her body but I was always talking about you know you’re always searching for people’s before and afters because we knew before and afters moved product yeah so now that you’ve adjusted and you are working on yourself and you have a more balanced relationship to your body and food how are you showing up in their lives now in your kids life in your husband’s life like how how are the dynamics now I don’t think we could be you know we could always be healthier but we’re just very open we love to talk all everyone in my family is a big fan of therapy I’ve had both my kids on my podcast talking about their own experience in therapy and their own experience in terms of like what it was like for us as parents and how important it is for them to be open and to share to teach you know just I think that’s the most generous thing any of us can do is to to share with others what things we’ve been able to conquer or get through and that’s such a generous thing to do and you know that’s why I love teachers you’re a teacher and teachers they’re sharing information that can make people’s lives better and my kids are both pretty passionate about doing that and I just you know the only way that we say you’re as sick as your secrets right and so I think the more we can be honest about what’s going on and not be afraid to work with professionals whether that’s a coach or a therapist or life coach the better life gets like you know every time you make an investment in yourself like it’s just a little bit better when you work on being a better human hmm yeah that’s so beautiful and I mean if anyone follows you on Instagram I’ll include links if you don’t follow Jillian you must you must like yesterday you guys have so much fun in your stories like I check your stories at least once a day is but I can how is how has play and fun you know had a role in your life now like cuz ya on at least it looks that way no we do it’s the well I was voted I’m really proud to say even though I was lobbying to be like prettiest eyes or best dressed in high school I got class clown and that makes sense to me cuz I really do like making people laugh and I have always really enjoyed just it’s like it’s a big part of my day like you know i if i’m not goofing off then i can’t be myself i can’t be creative i can’t be i can’t i just need to laugh and make fun of things and and have a good time and play practical jokes and that’s always who i’ve been if you watch like my early early videos the infomercial companies all let me put little practical jokes at the end of all the videos and so i just want people laugh and have a good time and not take themselves too seriously so that my kids know and my kids are really funny because that my husband is really funny inappropriately so i usually can’t post him up on my stories but we do a little bit and you know life is too short not to laugh and laugh as laughing is one of the best things you can do for your health because it really does help to reduce your stress beautifully said Julie and thank you so much for coming on the show today and sharing your story I’ve definitely learned more about you and about taking day-by-day and understanding that we can always shift and I think that was a huge piece to our interview is just no matter how messy things get it’s we have an opportunity to shift at any moment so thank you so much for sharing your story with us well thank 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